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  • Use-the-NT 2020 Organizational Thread

    From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 12 08:29:39 2020
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
    national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players
    is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.



    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 12 09:02:24 2020
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
    national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer
    than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players
    is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus
    for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title. Should I keep the same lineup, or impose additional restrictions? (e.g. dump Russia, dump all the former USSR, keep only Russia or USSR)?

    Armata Brancaleone is also in, of course.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 12 11:48:16 2020
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 12:02:27 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
    national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer
    than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players
    is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your
    total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus
    for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again
    this year.


    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title. Should I keep the same lineup, or impose additional restrictions? (e.g. dump Russia, dump all the former USSR, keep only Russia or USSR)?

    Armata Brancaleone is also in, of course.

    Armata Brancaleone preliminary lineup:

    DF: Bonucci, Bastoni, Spinazzola, Chiellini
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Lazzari, Jorginho, Gagliardini
    FW: Immobile (c), Chiesa, Insigne,
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 12 21:51:22 2020
    On 2020-10-12, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'

    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title. Should I keep the same lineup, or impose additional restrictions? (e.g. dump Russia, dump all the former USSR, keep only Russia or USSR)?

    Drop Poland?

    I shall do a viking team this time around, dropping the
    argies. Preliminary lineup: Haaland (C)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 14 04:57:27 2020
    On Monday, 12 October 2020 17:29:41 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.
    With four to one teams in the group stages the Wonderland will probably lean more heavily towards the Austrian side this year.
    Preliminary line-up:
    DF: David Alaba (Bayern)* - Andreas Ulmer (Salzburg) - Gernot Trauner (LASK) MF: Zlatko Junuzovi-c (Salzburg) - Konrad Laimer (Leipzig) - Remo Freuler (Atalanta) - Christoph Baumgartner (Hoffenheim) - Michael Liendl (WAC) - Christian Fassnacht (Young Boys)
    FW: Marcel Sabitzer (Leipzig, captain) - Mario Gavranovi-c (Dinamo Zagreb) - Marko Ragu++ (LASK)
    *own goals don't count do they
    As for the Bungs, they have too many players listed as 'Forwards', but Spurs and Leicester in the Europa League should help them to deliver ...on paper... Preliminary line-up:
    DF: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool) - Kieran Trippier (Atl|-tico) - James Tavernier (Rangers)
    MF: Mason Mount (Chelsea) - Harry Winks (Tottenham) - James Maddison (Leicester)
    - Bukayo Saka (Arsenal)
    FW: Raheem Sterling (Man City) - Jadon Sancho (Dortmund) - Marcus Rashford (Man United) - Harry Kane (Tottenham, captain) - James Vardy (Leicester)
    Greenwood and Abraham on stand-by at FW.
    Please doublecheck whether I picked the correct player categories according to the UEFA site.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 14 08:48:51 2020
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:48:18 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Armata Brancaleone preliminary lineup:

    DF: Bonucci, Bastoni, Spinazzola, Chiellini
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Lazzari, Jorginho, Gagliardini
    FW: Immobile (c), Chiesa, Insigne,

    Stefano Beltrame (ex-Juventus) now plies his trade with CSKA Sofia and should get a look.

    The Warsaw Pact's Central Commitee has decided not to proceed to unilateral disarmament. Preliminary lineup:

    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Keseru, Chalov, Junior Moraes
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 14 13:12:20 2020
    On 2020-10-12 09:29, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
    national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer
    than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players
    is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus
    for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    I will enter the Waffles and Windmills Benelux team again.

    Might think about one from the Rockingest confederation, but not sure
    there are enough players, so more research is required.

    And then, maybe it is time to revive the midgets with singed beards.



    Ciao,
    Werner

    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 16 17:10:49 2020
    On Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:12:23 UTC+2, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-12 09:29, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    I will enter the Waffles and Windmills Benelux team again.

    Might think about one from the Rockingest confederation, but not sure
    there are enough players, so more research is required.
    On a first glance, there might be. Pulisic, McKennie, Bailey, Davies, David, Jim|-nez, Lozano, Corona, Guti|-rrez + some Europa League teams outside the radar
    such as Omonia, Maccabi Tel Aviv and LASK have CONCACAF players like Blackman (Barbados), Ram|!rez (Costa Rica) or Andrade (Panama).
    But of course lining up and scoring are two very different things...
    If you haven't used it before, Soccerway's list of Players Abroad might come
    in useful: https://int.soccerway.com/players/players_abroad/united-states/ Ciao,
    Werner
    And then, maybe it is time to revive the midgets with singed beards.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 16 17:50:03 2020
    On Saturday, 17 October 2020 02:10:52 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:12:23 UTC+2, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-12 09:29, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    I will enter the Waffles and Windmills Benelux team again.

    Might think about one from the Rockingest confederation, but not sure there are enough players, so more research is required.

    On a first glance, there might be. Pulisic, McKennie, Bailey, Davies, David, Jim|-nez, Lozano, Corona, Guti|-rrez + some Europa League teams outside the radar such as Omonia, Maccabi Tel Aviv and LASK have CONCACAF players like Blackman (Barbados), Ram|!rez (Costa Rica) or Andrade (Panama).
    Forgot to add that Brenden Aaronson will join Salzburg too late for this game. But it's a cool transfer that makes a lot of sense for both sides.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Oct 17 10:35:41 2020
    On 2020-10-12 09:29, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one
    national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer
    than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players
    is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus
    for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'


    So are we still basing positions on those assigned on the official UEFA
    web site ?



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.



    Ciao,
    Werner

    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Oct 17 09:44:10 2020
    On Saturday, October 17, 2020 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

    So are we still basing positions on those assigned on the official UEFA
    web site ?

    I don't love it, but it's best solution to avoid controversies.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 18 16:57:10 2020
    On Monday, 12 October 2020 18:02:27 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title.

    If it weren't for the minor problem of the league he plays in, this would be your perfect team captain https://www.transfermarkt.com/marx-lenin/profil/spieler/371994


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 18 18:03:39 2020
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt




    On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 12 October 2020 18:02:27 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5 forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your
    captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of
    goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate again this year.


    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title.
    If it weren't for the minor problem of the league he plays in, this would be your perfect team captain https://www.transfermarkt.com/marx-lenin/profil/spieler/371994


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 18 21:21:39 2020
    On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    If it weren't for the minor problem of the league he plays in, this would be your perfect team captain https://www.transfermarkt.com/marx-lenin/profil/spieler/371994

    How does a Brazilian kid named Marx-Lenin end up playing for a team based in Togliatti? Never mind, it is to be hoped that he soon becomes a citizen of the Great Motherland so that he can raise the industrial output of the Pact!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 08:47:43 2020
    On 2020-10-18 19:03, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt

    You do realize that the Europa League counts as well ?
    Must be someone in there that is more likely to score than Kroos, among
    the midfielders.
    Speaking of which, what position does UEFA list Gnabry and Kimmich as ?






    On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 12 October 2020 18:02:27 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this
    started.

    Copied from Futbolmetrix's post last year:

    'Rules: Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play >>>> for one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5
    forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal
    scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by your
    captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total number of
    goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the round.

    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on
    Tuesday, October 20).'



    Alpine Wonderland (SUI+AUT) and the Brexit Bungs (ENG) will participate >>>> again this year.


    Well, I guess the Warsaw Pact needs to defend its title.
    If it weren't for the minor problem of the league he plays in, this would be >> your perfect team captain
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/marx-lenin/profil/spieler/371994


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 20:52:18 2020
    Bendtner Babes

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel%f (Man Utd), Kjur (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eikrem (Molde), Hussain (Molde), Sisto (Midtjylland)
    FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Berg (Krasnodar),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), Sorloth (Leipzig)

    UEFA was kind in the assignment of Midtjylland players, but shafted me everywhere else. Problem is, Midtjylland isn't going to score any goals.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 15:07:28 2020
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:52:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Bendtner Babes

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel||f (Man Utd), Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eikrem (Molde), Hussain (Molde), Sisto (Midtjylland)
    FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Berg (Krasnodar),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), S|+rloth (Leipzig)

    UEFA was kind in the assignment of Midtjylland players, but shafted me everywhere else. Problem is, Midtjylland isn't going to score any goals.
    No Erikssen? OK, he's not starting regularly for Inter, but still...
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 15:10:13 2020
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> writes:

    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started. Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'

    I scraped the UEFA website for players, positions.
    Assume that's the official arbiter.

    Go here to look for players:
    https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt

    (No multi-select for country yet, for the Pacts' teams.)

    -- HASM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 15:11:07 2020
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:47:50 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-18 19:03, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt

    You do realize that the Europa League counts as well ?
    Must be someone in there that is more likely to score than Kroos, among
    the midfielders.
    Speaking of which, what position does UEFA list Gnabry and Kimmich as ?
    UEFA lists Kimmich as a midfielder and Gnabry as a forward. But I think that in the past we have allowed Kimmich as a defender, because that's the position he actually plays in and UEFA doesn't have a clue. Gnabry, however, will count as a forward. It's still a valid lineup, but for future reference...
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 15:14:31 2020
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 6:10:18 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:
    Werner Pichler <> writes:

    European Group Phases begin in a week, so I guess we should get this started.
    Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (two early games on Tuesday,
    October 20).'

    I scraped the UEFA website for players, positions.
    Assume that's the official arbiter.

    Go here to look for players:
    https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt

    (No multi-select for country yet, for the Pacts' teams.)

    -- HASM

    Nice, thanks! I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 15:29:07 2020
    Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:

    Go here to look for players:
    https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt

    Nice, thanks! I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...

    The SQUAD page for Dynamo Kyiv is of a totally different format, thus my
    script didn't pick it up. It also doesn't lest which players are in the
    A or B team.

    I'll wait for UEFA to fix their page :-)

    -- HASM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 18:38:07 2020
    On 2020-10-19 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:47:50 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-18 19:03, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt

    You do realize that the Europa League counts as well ?
    Must be someone in there that is more likely to score than Kroos, among
    the midfielders.
    Speaking of which, what position does UEFA list Gnabry and Kimmich as ?

    UEFA lists Kimmich as a midfielder and Gnabry as a forward. But I think that in the past we have allowed Kimmich as a defender, because that's the position he actually plays in

    Not any more, except in an emergency. I think UEFA has this one right
    for a change this time.

    and UEFA doesn't have a clue. Gnabry, however, will count as a
    forward. It's still a valid lineup, but for future reference...


    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 19 18:39:20 2020
    On 2020-10-19 16:07, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:52:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Bendtner Babes

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel||f (Man Utd), Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eikrem (Molde), Hussain (Molde), Sisto (Midtjylland) >> FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Berg (Krasnodar),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), S|+rloth (Leipzig)

    UEFA was kind in the assignment of Midtjylland players, but shafted me
    everywhere else. Problem is, Midtjylland isn't going to score any goals.

    No Erikssen? OK, he's not starting regularly for Inter, but still...

    No Hojberg ?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 09:08:34 2020
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-19 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:47:50 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-18 19:03, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt

    You do realize that the Europa League counts as well ?
    I am againit, this was a simple game, now we may as well include copa libertadores clubs. Simplicity is what made this work, 10 players from one country from the one European cup. I amy as well include Lucas Waldschmidt in my team now, why not include the middle east clubs and i can go back to being the MMW.
    Must be someone in there that is more likely to score than Kroos, among >> the midfielders.
    Speaking of which, what position does UEFA list Gnabry and Kimmich as ?

    UEFA lists Kimmich as a midfielder and Gnabry as a forward. But I think that in the past we have allowed Kimmich as a defender, because that's the position he actually plays in
    Not any more, except in an emergency. I think UEFA has this one right
    for a change this time.
    and UEFA doesn't have a clue. Gnabry, however, will count as a
    forward. It's still a valid lineup, but for future reference...


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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 22:13:08 2020
    On 2020-10-20, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
    On 2020-10-19 16:07, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:52:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Bendtner Babes

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel||f (Man Utd), Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eikrem (Molde), Hussain (Molde), Sisto (Midtjylland) >>> FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Berg (Krasnodar),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), S|+rloth (Leipzig)

    UEFA was kind in the assignment of Midtjylland players, but shafted me
    everywhere else. Problem is, Midtjylland isn't going to score any goals.

    No Erikssen? OK, he's not starting regularly for Inter, but still...

    "Erikssen"? Really?

    No Hojberg ?

    Hojbjerg has 19 clubs goals in his career. 12 of those were scored in
    the Regionalliga Bayern.
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 22:15:29 2020
    On 2020-10-19, HASM <hasm@example.invalid> wrote:
    Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:

    Go here to look for players:
    https://www.silvado.com/rss/use_the_nt

    Nice, thanks! I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...

    The SQUAD page for Dynamo Kyiv is of a totally different format, thus my script didn't pick it up. It also doesn't lest which players are in the
    A or B team.

    Midtjylland is another team missing. Probably for the same reason.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 17:51:38 2020
    On 2020-10-20 10:08, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-19 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:47:50 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-18 19:03, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Not really many good german footballers left in the world today, but I will do a Teutonic tramp team. Neuer and ter Stegen have more chance of scoring than any defender or midfielder, oh if only Marko were avaiable...

    Hummels, Kimmich Sule
    Gnarby,goretzka,Reus,Kroos,Havertz
    Sane,Werner,muller(C),Brandt

    You do realize that the Europa League counts as well ?

    I am againit, this was a simple game, now we may as well include copa libertadores clubs. Simplicity is what made this work, 10 players from one country from the one European cup. I amy as well include Lucas Waldschmidt in my team now, why not include the middle east clubs and i can go back to being the MMW.


    ??? We have been including the Europa league for several years now. I
    can see the arguments against it, but in its favour it adds a lovely
    element of unpredictability ,since you never know which teams will rest
    their star players, and which ones will take it seriously.


    Must be someone in there that is more likely to score than Kroos, among >>>> the midfielders.
    Speaking of which, what position does UEFA list Gnabry and Kimmich as ? >>>
    UEFA lists Kimmich as a midfielder and Gnabry as a forward. But I think that in the past we have allowed Kimmich as a defender, because that's the position he actually plays in
    Not any more, except in an emergency. I think UEFA has this one right
    for a change this time.
    and UEFA doesn't have a clue. Gnabry, however, will count as a
    forward. It's still a valid lineup, but for future reference...


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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 17:52:33 2020
    On 2020-10-20 16:13, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    On 2020-10-20, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
    On 2020-10-19 16:07, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:52:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >>>> Bendtner Babes

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel|a-|f (Man Utd), Kj|a-ar (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eikrem (Molde), Hussain (Molde), Sisto (Midtjylland) >>>> FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Berg (Krasnodar),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), S|a-+rloth (Leipzig)

    UEFA was kind in the assignment of Midtjylland players, but shafted me >>>> everywhere else. Problem is, Midtjylland isn't going to score any goals. >>>
    No Erikssen? OK, he's not starting regularly for Inter, but still...

    "Erikssen"? Really?

    No Hojberg ?

    H|+jbjerg has 19 clubs goals in his career. 12 of those were scored in
    the Regionalliga Bayern.

    You have just guaranteed that he will score this week :-) !
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 17:38:06 2020

    Nice, thanks! I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...
    Midtjylland is another team missing.

    Uploaded squads for Dynamo and Midtjylland.
    (Semi-manually, there may be glitches.)

    -- HASM
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 20 20:49:33 2020
    On 2020-10-20 18:38, HASM wrote:

    Nice, thanks! I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...
    Midtjylland is another team missing.

    Uploaded squads for Dynamo and Midtjylland.
    (Semi-manually, there may be glitches.)

    -- HASM

    Celtic and Rangers seemed to be missing. Also, it seemed to be
    assigning nationalities that are not based on the country the player
    actually plays for eg. Pulisic was listed as Croatian on the very useful
    tool you provided.

    This site is also not bad, though it has not fully updated all squad
    lists yet.

    https://www.football-lineups.com/tourn/Champions_League_2020-2021/Stats/Nationalities/?c=DE

    Also, their positions might not correspond to the ones on UEFA.
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 21 07:37:59 2020

    Go here to look for players:
    I think you have Dynamo Kyiv missing, though...
    Midtjylland is another team missing.
    Uploaded squads for Dynamo and Midtjylland.
    Celtic and Rangers seemed to be missing.

    Turns out lots of teams were missing.

    Turns out parsing the format I missed the first time is actually much
    faster, as it contains a list with players, positions and nationalities
    in a single page, while the format I parsed first requires to fetch each player's page to get the nationality.

    I've updated the website. Now querying the DB for distinct clubs yields
    80 (32 UCL + 48 Europa) where after I manually added Midtjylland and
    Dynamo there were still only 55.

    Pulisic was listed as Croatian on the very useful tool you provided.

    Aren't we going with players' position as in the UEFA website?
    Maybe we should go with the nationalities as shown there too :-)
    Or I can manually correct those cases.

    -- HaSM
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 21 08:04:33 2020

    Pulisic was listed as Croatian on the very useful tool you provided.
    And Giovanni Reyna is listed as Portuguese on UEFA :-)
    For Pulisic wikipedia has:
    Pulisic's paternal grandfather, Mate Puli+ii-c, was born in Croatia on
    the island of Olib. Pulisic obtained Croatian citizenship after
    moving to Germany in order to avoid applying for a German work visa,
    which is required to work in the country without a European Union
    passport.
    For Reyna wikipedia has says:
    Reyna ... attracted interest from the Portuguese, English, and
    Argentine national teams, for all of which he is indirectly eligible
    to play.
    Maybe Reyna got a Portuguese passport for the same reason as Pulisic,
    and Croatian and Portuguese are the "nationalities" they are registered
    in UEFA's database, as opposed to FIFA's database, which is what one
    would normally use.
    For that reason Coutinho should also be listed as Portuguese, as he got Portuguese nationality to originally be able to play for Barcelona, but
    he is listed as Brazilian, though depending on the number of
    "non-European" players now in Barcelona's squad that could be the one
    they're using now.
    -- HASM
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