EPL Title 6-pointer?
For the moment, Liverpool piling up the pressure, and Mourinho Mourinho-ing
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 3:16:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
EPL Title 6-pointer?
For the moment, Liverpool piling up the pressure, and Mourinho Mourinho-ingSalah with a heavily deflected shot that loops over Loris. 1-0
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 3:32:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:Liverpool still with all the possession, but the two best chances of the half have fallen to the Mourinho-boys. First some route one football leaves Bergwijn with a one-on-one versus Allison, but he's no Son and only hits the post. On the ensuing corner, Kane has a wide-open header from inside the six-yard box, but he bounces into the ground and over the crossbar.
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 3:16:34 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
EPL Title 6-pointer?
Spurs continue to sit deep, Liverpool fall into the trap and Son punishes them on the counter, beating VAR by inches on the way. 1-1For the moment, Liverpool piling up the pressure, and Mourinho Mourinho-ingSalah with a heavily deflected shot that loops over Loris. 1-0
Liverpool still with all the possession, but the two best chances of the half have fallen to the Mourinho-boys. First some route one football leaves Bergwijn with a one-on-one versus Allison, but he's no Son and only hits the post. On the ensuing corner, Kane has a wide-open header from inside the six-yard box, but he bounces into the ground and over the crossbar.Firmino with the likely winner off a corner kick in the 88th minute.
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 4:25:44 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Liverpool still with all the possession, but the two best chances of the half have fallen to the Mourinho-boys. First some route one football leaves Bergwijn with a one-on-one versus Allison, but he's no Son and only hits the post. On the ensuing corner, Kane has a wide-open header from inside the six-yard box, but he bounces into the ground and over the crossbar.Firmino with the likely winner off a corner kick in the 88th minute.
Yes, that's it. FT 2-1. Liverpool goes top of the table.
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 4:25:44 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Liverpool still with all the possession, but the two best chances of the half have fallen to the Mourinho-boys. First some route one football leaves Bergwijn with a one-on-one versus Allison, but he's no Son and only hits the post. On the ensuing corner, Kane has a wide-open header from inside the six-yard box, but he bounces into the ground and over the crossbar.
Firmino with the likely winner off a corner kick in the 88th minute.
Yes, that's it. FT 2-1. Liverpool goes top of the table.
Firmino with the likely winner off a corner kick in the 88th minute.
Yes, that's it. FT 2-1. Liverpool goes top of the table.
But Five Three Eight still has Man City as league favourites -- by a considerable margin. I wonder if they have updated based on today's
matches yet.
On 2020-12-16, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
But Five Three Eight still has Man City as league favourites -- by a
considerable margin. I wonder if they have updated based on today's
matches yet.
They have an update date above the table (but without stating what
time zone it's from). Better to look at the current points. Liverpool
have 28, so yes, it's updated.
They rate City as a much better team than Liverpool, so the net 5
point gap isn't considered that big a deal.
they had City at 57% (88 points) and Liverpool at 24% (80 points).
On 2020-12-16 15:38, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On 2020-12-16, MH <MHno...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
But Five Three Eight still has Man City as league favourites -- by a
considerable margin. I wonder if they have updated based on today's
matches yet.
They have an update date above the table (but without stating whatI check about 15 minutes after the match, and they still had Liverpool
time zone it's from). Better to look at the current points. Liverpool
have 28, so yes, it's updated.
on 25 points.
They rate City as a much better team than Liverpool, so the net 5City are great on paper, and have solved defensive shortcomings to a
point gap isn't considered that big a deal.
large extent. But De Bruyne is a bit off colour, and they can't score
goals. If that continues, surely their strength rating has to come down. Before the season started
they had City at 57% (88 points) and Liverpool at 24% (80 points).
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:09:25 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2020-12-16 15:38, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On 2020-12-16, MH <MHno...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
But Five Three Eight still has Man City as league favourites -- by a
considerable margin. I wonder if they have updated based on today's
matches yet.
Why would anyone think an American election polling site would be a good place to check for WWEpl leader standings and predictions?
I just find it interesting that they started doing the whole:-) RSS are trailblazers!
"sophisticated prediction" thing years after we did,
except that theyIf you click on the "How this works" link at the top of the page, they actually go into quite a bit of detail about their methodology. I think their main thing (which leads to the discrepancy between their predictions and those of other sites) is that they put a lot of weight on expected goals (xG, how many goals a team is expected to score given the quality of shots it produced during a match) and "non-shot expected goals" (nsxG, which to a first approximation captures possession and territorial dominance). For example, in Liverpool-Tottenham, Spurs actually won the xG battle 1.6 to 1.3 (in addition to Son's goal, Spurs had three big chances: the two Bergwijn breakaways and Harry Kane's wide open header, while Liverpool created lots of shots but from difficult angles and under pressure). On the other hand, Liverpool completely obliterated Spurs in terms of nsxG (2.4 to 0.3), which is what you would expect given they had about 75% possession.
update throughout the season. WHen Daniele has entered 538 into our competitions they generally do fairly well. But I am interested in
their methods, give that they ascribe much higher odds to certain events than I would (eg. Barca is their third favourite for the CL right now,
which seems optimistic, and also still their favourite for the league).
On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 6:31:36 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:Sorry, this just sounds stupid. They are basing their predictions on what has already happened? So from what some American election pollsters considered were good scoring chances and not good chances (how they decide that, I am sure is quite scientific and factual). Ok, at the end of the season, after every game has been played and they have come up with all the xg vs nxg chances, they can now correctly predict the league winner.
I just find it interesting that they started doing the whole "sophisticated prediction" thing years after we did,:-) RSS are trailblazers!
except that theyIf you click on the "How this works" link at the top of the page, they actually go into quite a bit of detail about their methodology. I think their main thing (which leads to the discrepancy between their predictions and those of other sites) is that they put a lot of weight on expected goals (xG, how many goals a team is expected to score given the quality of shots it produced during a match) and "non-shot expected goals" (nsxG, which to a first approximation captures possession and territorial dominance).
update throughout the season. WHen Daniele has entered 538 into our competitions they generally do fairly well. But I am interested in
their methods, give that they ascribe much higher odds to certain events than I would (eg. Barca is their third favourite for the CL right now, which seems optimistic, and also still their favourite for the league).
Because of this, teams that play a lot of possession football (ManCity, Barca) do quite well in their system, whie Mourinho-like teams do worse. Note that in Italy, Juve has done quite badly in terms of xG in recent years, and they are strongly underrated for the Serie A title relative to other models/bookmakers.--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 7:17:45 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 6:31:36 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I just find it interesting that they started doing the whole "sophisticated prediction" thing years after we did,:-) RSS are trailblazers!
except that they
update throughout the season. WHen Daniele has entered 538 into our competitions they generally do fairly well. But I am interested in
their methods, give that they ascribe much higher odds to certain events than I would (eg. Barca is their third favourite for the CL right now, which seems optimistic, and also still their favourite for the league).
If you click on the "How this works" link at the top of the page, they actually go into quite a bit of detail about their methodology. I think their main thing (which leads to the discrepancy between their predictions
and those of other sites) is that they put a lot of weight on expected goals (xG, how many goals a team is expected to score given the quality of shots it produced during a match) and "non-shot expected goals"
(nsxG, which to a first approximation captures possession and territorial dominance).
Sorry, this just sounds stupid. They are basing their predictions on what has already happened?
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