https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_SimonssonSo, who still lives from the 1958 final?
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:OK, Italian Wikipedia has him dead fifteen years ago in the US. Strange how some
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must
be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match),
and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.Those two are still true.
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must
be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:19:26 AM UTC-3, Jesus Petry wrote:Nikita Simonyan is still alive - he won Olympic Gold with the Soviet Union in 1956 and played in the 1958 World Cup, and was born on October 12, 1926.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:32:26 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:19:26 AM UTC-3, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin.
Does it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!
Nikita Simonyan is still alive - he won Olympic Gold with the Soviet Union in 1956 and played in the 1958 World Cup, and was born on October 12, 1926.He beats all the 1950ers that I've found as confirmed alive.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for theirKeeping on the Far East theme, here's an 1954er to beat Simonyan:
match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.
Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their
match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.
Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player?
Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.
Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
I wonder though whether playing football is not that good for you.Thought the same and I'm pretty sure at least for that generation the answer
Going over--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
the squads of the 1954 WC, it looks as if about 15% of players born between 1931 and 1935 are still alive. That strikes me as a bit lower than the male survival rate in the population (based on this data from the UN: https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/ -- there is a lot of variation by country so one would have to adjust for that...)
Thought the same and I'm pretty sure at least for that generation the
answer is no. Of the 1954 final, more than half of the players died
before the age of 70 with heart attacks quite prevalent.
If that's down to some long-term effects of the stuff they were taking
or being given at the time, some other reasons, or a statistical blip,
I wouldn't venture to say.
On 2020-09-23, Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around
One big year, 18 goals for France in 1958, 13 of them in the World Cup
Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around
Just Fontaine?
On 2020-09-24, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around
Just Fontaine?
Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine
On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:49:57 AM UTC-3, Bruce Scott wrote:If I counted correctly, and if English wikipedia is to be trusted, seven members of France's 1958 WC squad are still alive: Fontaine, Colonna, Remetter, Mouynet, Chiarelli, Douis and Wisnieski. This in contrast with France's 1954 WC squad, with no survivors.
On 2020-09-24, anders t <> wrote:
Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around
Just Fontaine?
Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine
I'm guessing it was a pun.
Tchau!
Jesus "Just Fontaine? No one else?" Petry
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
He once apparently said something like:
"You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
it check, Anders?
Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their
match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.
Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:49:57 AM UTC-3, Bruce Scott wrote:
On 2020-09-24, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around
Just Fontaine?
Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine
I'm guessing it was a pun.
Tchau!
Jesus "Just Fontaine? No one else?" Petry
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