• HVYRAIN: Excess Rain D1-2

    From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 28 15:11:49 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    346 PM EDT Mon Jul 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Jul 28 2025 - 12Z Tue Jul 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY..

    ...Northern Plains to Upper MS Valley...

    16Z update... Some eastward nudge of the Slight Risk further into
    Wisconsin and Iowa was made to prefect the latest guidance and WPC
    trend. The best focus for higher accumulations and rainfall rates
    continue to be across southern Minnesota and the surrounding areas.

    Campbell

    Convection will move across portions of eastern MT and into the
    western Dakotas this morning. Heavy rainfall rates with this
    activity will pose a localized flash flood risk, however generally
    quick cell motions should limit the extent of the threat. As we
    head into the afternoon and evening hours this convection will
    grow upscale into an MCS as it moves across central SD into
    southern MN and northern IA. A forward propagating derecho is
    likely given the environmental ingredients in place and per SPC.
    This fast forward motion will likely cap the extent of any flash
    flood risk at the Slight level.

    The impressive CAPE and PWs around 2" near and just downstream of
    the MCS will support heavy rainfall rates. As the MCS matures the
    heaviest rainfall totals may end up near the developing comma
    head/bookend vortex where rainfall duration will be locally longer.
    The 00z HREF supports total rainfall over 2", with a narrow axis
    of over 3" probable as well. Portions of eastern SD into southwest
    MN received heavy rainfall this past night...and so if an
    additional 2-3" falls over these areas then isolated to scattered
    flash flooding is likely. Elsewhere, the threat is likely an urban
    risk driven by hourly rainfall locally as high as 2" as the MCS
    moves through.

    ...Southwest...

    16Z update... The Marginal Risk was expanded southeast toward the
    Big Bend area of West Texas. Abundant mid-level moisture will be
    present during this period and some of the CAMs are hinting at
    thunderstorm development will take place this afternoon and
    evening.

    Campbell

    Another day of scattered afternoon convection expected across much
    of NM into far southeast AZ. Both PWs and CAPE are forecast to be
    higher today compared to yesterday, and so do anticipate a bit
    more convective coverage today. Activity will initially develop
    near areas of terrain, such as the Sacramento Mountains and Sangre
    De Cristos. Given the moisture and instability in place...at least
    an isolated flash flood threat is likely on/near these higher
    terrain areas, especially over the more sensitive burn scars. Cells
    may tend to be transient today...either moving off to the west
    and/or dissipating fairly quickly, which may keep the flash flood
    coverage isolated in nature. Convection could actually persist into
    the overnight hours over portions of southern NM...but the extent
    of instability by this time is unclear, and so rainfall rates
    should be tempered by this time. Overall this is a solid Marginal
    risk with isolated flash flooding likely, but at the moment think
    the risk falls just shy of Slight risk level coverage.

    ...OH Valley into the Carolinas...

    Isolated to scattered thunderstorms are expected today across a
    broad area stretching from KY/TN to southern MI and all the way to
    the coastal Carolinas. Generally not expecting much organization
    to convection...but PWs of around 2" (or higher) will continue to
    support heavy rainfall rates. Localized rainfall of 2-3" are
    possible within the Marginal risk area...and while the coverage of
    these amounts should be small...where it does fall some flash
    flood impacts are possible within areas of lowered FFG. The most
    concentrated probabilities in the HREF are actually over the
    coastal Carolinas, where a convergence axis should drive more
    convective coverage and some totals locally over 3". However with
    higher FFG over these areas the flash flood risk is still expected
    to stay isolated.

    Chenard

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Jul 29 2025 - 12Z Wed Jul 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS AND FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Central and Northern Plains...

    21Z update... The trend of shifting the QPF footprint further east
    across the central U.S. persisted with the most recent run of
    guidance. Portions of southern Iowa, northwest Missouri and
    northern Kansas saw an uptick in coverage and amounts for this
    period. As such the Slight Risk area was expanded on its eastern
    boundary to cover this part of the region. Hourly rain rates of
    1-2 inches/hour still expected to pass through the Plains toward
    the Midwest.

    Campbell

    A stationary front will likely extend across southern IA/NE and
    into the High Plains on Tuesday afternoon/evening. Easterly flow to
    the north of this front will likely help trigger convective
    development over the High Plains as shortwave energy moves out of
    the Rockies and upper level divergence increases in the right
    entrance region of an upper jet. This activity will likely push
    east into the overnight hours across NE and eventually IA
    along/north of the stationary front. Upscale development into an
    MCS appears probable driving a heavy rainfall threat. Any eventual
    MCS will probably propagate off to the east fairly quickly, however
    additional development downstream over NE/IA is possible given the
    convergence near the front and what should be CAPE around 4000
    j/kg. PWs should be plenty high enough for heavy rainfall, ranging
    from 1.5" in the High Plains to locally over 2" from eastern NE
    into IA.

    There remains some latitudinal uncertainty with the axis of
    convection during this period...although the general trend has
    been for a slightly farther south axis. There is also some question
    as to how far east the risk exists, with the deterministic and
    ensemble EC and the 00z RRFS/REFS favoring NE, but the GFS and
    AIFS extending the threat into IA. Given a favorable track record
    for the AIFS and the presence of the boundary/instability/PWs over
    IA, we did want to make sure that the Slight risk at least covered
    into central IA.

    ...Southwest...

    21Z update... The signal for heavy rainfall increased for portions
    of New Mexico and far southwest Arizona for this period. Much of
    this part of the region is sensitive to higher rainfall
    intensities/amounts. In coordination with the local forecast
    offices concern was raised for not only recent burn scars but also
    the Sangre de Cristo Mountains and possibly the Gila region of
    southwest NM. A Slight Risk was raised for this period to cover
    this increased threat for local flash flooding potential.

    Campbell

    Another day of scattered afternoon convection expected Tuesday.
    Probabilities from both the 00z HREF and REFS show a bit more
    persistence of high 1"/hr exceedance over the Sacramento Mountains
    and vicinity. Thus the flash flood risk over these areas, and the
    susceptible burn scars, may very well be higher Tuesday than
    Monday. However there are some questions regarding the coverage of
    heavier rainfall amounts away from these terrain areas, as the
    overall coverage could be a bit less than Monday. Given the small
    extent of the higher risk at the moment and the uncertainty on the
    broader coverage, we will leave the ERO at a Marginal level pending
    what happens Monday. Although locally significant impacts are
    possible within/near the Sacramento Mountain burn scars.

    ...Southeast...

    Expecting greater convective coverage on Tuesday from the Southeast
    into the southern Appalachians. Not much in the way of forcing to
    organize convection, and generally expecting pulse activity that
    does not last all that long at any one location. This will act as
    a limiting factor for flash flooding...however there should be
    enough convective coverage that some cell mergers along outflows
    will be a possibility. PWs in the region are forecast between 2"
    and 2.3", with CAPE over 2000 j/kg...so the thermodynamic
    environment will support heavy rainfall rates. Thus even with a
    relatively short duration of rain at any one location, rainfall
    totals locally over 3" appear probable driving a localized flash
    flood risk.

    Chenard
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 29 08:40:14 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    414 AM EDT Tue Jul 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Jul 29 2025 - 12Z Wed Jul 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS AND FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Central and Northern Plains...
    A stationary front will likely extend across southern IA/NE and
    into the High Plains on Tuesday afternoon/evening. Easterly flow to
    the north of this front will likely help trigger convective
    development over the High Plains as shortwave energy moves out of
    the Rockies and upper level divergence increases in the right
    entrance region of an upper jet. This activity will likely push
    east into the overnight hours across NE and eventually IA
    along/north of the stationary front. Upscale development into an
    MCS appears probable driving a heavy rainfall threat. Any eventual
    MCS will probably propagate off to the east fairly quickly, however
    additional development downstream over NE/IA is possible given the
    convergence near the front and what should be CAPE around 4000
    j/kg. PWs should be plenty high enough for heavy rainfall,
    generally 1.5 to 2 SD above late July normals.

    There remains some latitudinal uncertainty with the axis of
    convection during this period. The trend amongst the 00z high res
    guidance is for two convective clusters...one moving across
    southern SD, and another from NE into IA. The Slight risk was made
    broader to account for this potential. Still think the greatest
    rainfall magnitudes are more likely to occur with the southern
    swath across NE into IA, where instability and surface convergence
    will be higher. EAS probabilities from both the HREF and REFS
    indicate the best coverage of 2"+ rainfall to focus over portions
    of eastern NE into western IA. Both of these ensemble suites also
    indicate a 30-50% chance of exceeding the 3hr FFG across this same
    corridor. Thus higher end Slight risk probabilities exist from
    eastern NE into western IA where some training of convection may
    result in a greater flash flood risk Tuesday evening/night.

    ...Southwest...
    Scattered to numerous areas of thunderstorms have persisted Monday evening/night across central and southern NM. A well defined
    shortwave/MCV will likely persist into the day today. While this
    feature should act as a forcing mechanism today, abundant cloud
    cover associated with this feature may help reduce convective coverage/intensity.

    However, confidence remains higher on a flash flood risk today
    over the Sacramento Mountains and vicinity. Probabilities from both
    the 00z HREF and REFS show more persistence of high 1"/hr
    exceedance today...with elevated probabilities at least from
    19z-22z. There is some hope that enough cloud cover persists that
    we are not able to destabilize enough for maintained deep
    convection. However most indications suggest we do see a gradual destabilization take place by late morning into the early afternoon
    over southeast NM. If this occurs then flash flooding near the
    Sacramento Mountains appears likely...and significant impacts are
    possible near area burn scars.

    Confidence is lower over the rest of NM. The 00z CAMS really
    struggle to build instability back after the widespread convection
    of Monday night. Thus the coverage and intensity of convection is
    muted compared to Monday. Since day shift just introduced the
    Slight risk we will leave it for this cycle given the uncertainty.
    It very well may not verify outside of the aforementioned
    Sacramento Mountain region...however with the remnant MCV and PWs
    similar or slightly higher than Monday, if we are able to
    destabilize then Slight risk level coverage of flash flooding could
    still materialize.

    ...Southeast...
    Expecting greater convective coverage today from the Southeast
    into the southern Appalachians. Not much in the way of forcing to
    organize convection, and generally expecting pulse activity that
    does not last all that long at any one location. This will act as a
    limiting factor for flash flooding...however there should be
    enough convective coverage and chaotic cell motions (weak mean
    winds) that some cell mergers along outflows will be a
    possibility. PWs in the region are forecast between 2" and 2.4",
    with CAPE over 2000 j/kg...so the thermodynamic environment will
    support heavy rainfall rates. Thus even with a relatively short
    duration of rain at any one location, rainfall totals locally over
    3" appear probable driving a localized flash flood risk. Both the
    HREF and REFS have 3"+ neighborhood probabilities in the 40-70%
    range over most of the Marginal risk area, however the spatial
    coverage of these amounts is quite small. Thus while localized
    areas of flash flooding are likely today, not currently seeing
    enough coverage to justify a Slight risk at this point.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Jul 30 2025 - 12Z Thu Jul 31 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND FOR PORTIONS OF THE FRONT RANGE
    AND ADJACENT HIGH PLAINS...

    ...Mid MS Valley...
    At 12z Wednesday it seems likely that we will have some degree of
    organized convection ongoing in the vicinity of IA. It appears
    probable that a better defined shortwave/MCV will be associated
    with this convection and slowly move east across IA/MO/IL and
    vicinity Wednesday into Wednesday night. Meanwhile we will have a
    slowly southward shifting cold front helping focus convergence, and
    the right entrance region of the upper jet adding some divergence
    aloft. With plentiful CAPE near the front and PWs locally over 2",
    the ingredients for areas of excessive rainfall are in place.

    There is actually quite a bit of uncertainty with the convective
    details Wednesday into Wednesday night. There has been a subtle
    northward shift in the forecast MCV location, seemingly now
    tracking across IA into northern IL. However the northern extent
    of the excessive rainfall risk will likely be capped by a lack of
    instability well north of the cold front. The 00z ECENS and AIFS
    ensembles are focusing the best rainfall potential from eastern IA
    into northern IL. This seems reasonable, although the magnitudes
    remain in question and are dependent on the degree of instability
    in place. The better instability may actually reside over portions
    of central MO into central IL, and so if convection is able to
    organize this far south then a greater flash flood risk could
    evolve. All this to say that confidence is low, and thus a broad
    Slight risk remains to encompass the various possible scenarios.
    Higher end impacts are possible in this setup, but far from
    guaranteed given the questions that remain regarding the MCV
    track/intensity and instability in place.

    ...Southwest and High Plains...
    Isolated to scattered convection will likely develop near areas of
    terrain from NM into the Rockies. Day shift introduced a Slight
    risk for this activity, and that still seems reasonable. Easterly
    low level flow into the Front Range of CO will likely result in
    slow cell motions and the possibility of at least isolated flash
    flooding. Guidance is coming into better agreement that some
    upscale growth and eastward propagation into northeast NM,
    southeast CO and the OK Panhandle is probable as well, focusing
    near the cold front.

    ...Elsewhere...
    A broad Marginal risk extends from the central Gulf Coast all the
    way into portions of New England. High PWs and CAPE and convective
    coverage will drive the risk from the Gulf Coast into the TN
    valley. A lack of organization may keep FFG exceedance coverage
    down, but high rainfall rates will likely locally approach or
    exceed FFG. A cold front will drive the risk form portions of the
    OH valley into New England. Generally quick cell motions and the
    lack of a significant QPF footprint in the 00z models keep this
    risk at a Marginal level.

    Chenard
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