Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could imagine to be.
I read that one of the AI scientists was concerned that LLMs (what
we're calling AI) rely on quality information to feed the language
models. Now that we're flooding the net with AI-generated content, some
of which is wholly inaccurate, or at the very least wildly
apocryphal, that information is seeding the LLMs to create more
innacurate AI content, and so on, and so on.
It is hard enough to get a good answer out of a group of people. Throwing ai in there to pool a lot of information (good and bad) to
spew out answers won't help.
We saw that on DOVEnet with a LLM that answered support questions.
Sometimes it was spot on, other times it was way off.
Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a "staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising
that they'd fix it.
I haven't seen a public bus system that worked effectively with my two
kids, and we're talking about a small district (which should be a
cake-walk). My son ended up having to get to a bus stop over an hour
before school, and he was one of the last stops on the route!
A bus route seems like a place where a human would outperform an AI.
We're not at tha point where a LLM can come up with a solution without
human intervention.
Back in the 50s, the fully electric kitchen was a thing. Manufacturers
electrified everything, because they could, and because it was part of
The Future.
When's the last time you saw an electric can opener? They didn't stick,
and kitchen appliances are appropriately electric.
We saw that on DOVEnet with a LLM that answered support questions.
Sometimes it was spot on, other times it was way off.
Now that you mention it, I do remember that. Interactions with it could prove quite interesting, but often not so informative. ;)
Now that you mention it, I do remember that. Interactions with it could prove quite interesting, but often not so informative. ;)
actually it was wrong EVERY time. It however did a great job at looking like
was correct part of the time. Even when Rob corrected it, it would apologize d then crap out another bad answer.
Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Seems like they were still the rage in the 1970s but, yeah, I think my generation (that grew up in the 1970s/80s) sort of abandoned them.
When the one we had forever when I was a kid finally quit working, my folks replaced it with hand-operated ones. I've never had anything but hand-operated ones.
That is correct, and that is what made it interesting. You never knew if a message from it would be correct, half-correct, or way off base, even
though it seemed pretty confident of itself each time.
You also had to sit and wonder if anyone actually tried following some of the bad advice it gave.
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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Seems like they were still the rage in the 1970s but, yeah, I think my generation (that grew up in the 1970s/80s) sort of abandoned them.
When the one we had forever when I was a kid finally quit working, my folks replaced it with hand-operated ones. I've never had anything but hand-operated ones.
And, so the same with AI. It'll stick where it makes sense, and
AI-powered Smart hair dryers will dissapear.
And, so the same with AI. It'll stick where it makes sense, and
AI-powered Smart hair dryers will dissapear.
well we don't really have electric can openers because a lot of cans are now p
l tops. Electric can openers take up countertop space and i guess some brands
ailed after a few years.
i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there
I think it could be dangerous in the long (and even short) run. As you point out, many of the ai engines are scraping the net, which means they
are probably getting some good data and a whole lot of noise. Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could imagine to be.
Anyways, apparently people are using this junk to write code.
I hope they are getting what they paid for, or maybe they are just telling s
usually give it multiple samples. Now imagine all the "Rs" you show to it have a hidden feature, like a particular ink color, or a small stain on the border of the sample. THe machine would learn that all the letters with that hidden feature are an "R". Then, in the wild, you could purposedly break the AI results by presenting it a "C" that displayed the hidden feature and it will be interpretated as an "R".
Now imagine the AI system is used to process bank checks and you can make it
did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
shame video of you on a screen?
That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.
Mike
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did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
shame video of you on a screen?
That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.
Mike
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Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am
That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.
Mike
I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.
Jas Hud wrote to Arelor <=-
we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.
Also you can identify someone by their gait. I have a unique walk from just wrecking my body and because I am big and I move so fast. They
had an example of gait detection on the punisher tv show.
That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.
chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw
I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.
the social credit system is the real scarey shit.
chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw
I am generally for anything that would cut down on jay walkers, as well as several other traffic violators that cause accidents.
we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.
We should all go back to wearing surgical masks.
One of the "how to attend a protest" guides I read suggested putting a
pebble in one shoe to throw your gait off. That came in handy at the
"Blood-drinking Tranny Pedophile Lives Matter" protest I went to in San
Francisco, because, you know, they're everywhere.
Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
in SF you will be walking funny on the street anyways. you are
stepping in human shit, or stepping over it. also there's the drug
users and needles you need to step over.
Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-
the social credit system is the real scarey shit.
Indeed it is.
Walking through the mounds of feces and medical waste are nothing
compared to trying to get past the false narrative.
All cities have their good areas and bad areas. Painting all of San Francisco with images of the bad areas is disingenuous at best and projecting at its worst, when meant to smear a political party and their policies.
Go ahead, tell me when the last time you were in San Francisco was. I'm going into The City tomorrow.
the social credit system is the real scarey shit.
Indeed it is.
It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.
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the social credit system is the real scarey shit.
Indeed it is.
It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.
I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about
it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.
I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.
sometimes it's hit or miss.
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I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.
sometimes it's hit or miss.
Thanks, that is good to know.
Mike
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