• 128 Democrats

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to All on Tue Jun 24 16:36:22 2025
    128 house Democrats voted to table a bill to impeach Trump for interfering with their friend Iran's nuclear program.

    When I first heard that I thought "Great, they've learned that impeachment of Trump is stupid."

    But then I found out what it means to "table" a bill; it means they're not impeaching him now, but they're also not taking it off the menu. They'll impeach him ("forever") when the time is right.

    But some of the house Democrats are so angry about Trump derailing their nuclear ambition that they've lashed out publicly, like Jasmine Crockett who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I decide when!"

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jun 24 20:09:01 2025
    On Tue 24-Jun-2025 4:36p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 wrote:
    128 house Democrats voted to table a bill to impeach Trump for interfering with their friend Iran's nuclear program.

    When I first heard that I thought "Great, they've learned that impeachment of Trump is stupid."

    But then I found out what it means to "table" a bill; it means they're not impeaching him now, but they're also not taking it off the menu. They'll impeach him ("forever") when the time is right.

    Naw they are just waiting until after midterms, when they regain the majority, God willing they get one in both the House and Senate

    But some of the house Democrats are so angry about Trump derailing their nuclear ambition that they've lashed out publicly, like Jasmine Crockett who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I decide when!"

    Their nuclear ambition? Which one would that be, sir? I thought we already had nukes.....

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Tue Jun 24 19:05:24 2025
    Naw they are just waiting until after midterms, when they regain the majority, God willing they get one in both the House and Senate

    A majority in the senate isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    But some of the house Democrats are so angry about Trump derailing the nuclear ambition that they've lashed out publicly, like Jasmine Crocke who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I decide when!"

    Their nuclear ambition? Which one would that be, sir? I thought we already had nukes.....

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jun 24 22:15:25 2025
    On Tue 24-Jun-2025 7:05p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Rug Rat:
    Naw they are just waiting until after midterms, when they regain the majority, God willing they get one in both the House and Senate

    A majority in the senate isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    An entirely subjective and useless comment albiet entertaining.


    But some of the house Democrats are so angry about Trump
    derailing the
    nuclear ambition that they've lashed out publicly, like Jasmine
    Crocke
    who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I decide
    when!"

    Their nuclear ambition? Which one would that be, sir? I thought we already had nukes.....

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    Let's see (Firing up Google)..

    Iran began its nuclear weapons program in the late 1980's

    Presidents from the late 1980s onward.

    Regan 1981 - 1989 (Can't put much blame on him, he was President for only a year or 2 in this block, and most likely senile.), but for a numbers figure lets say (2).

    Bush Sr. 1989 - 1993 (4)

    Clinton 1993 - 2001 (8)

    Bush Jr. 2001 - 2009 (8)

    Obama . 2009 - 2017 (8)

    Trump I - 2017 - 2021 (4)

    Biden - 2021 - 2025 (4)

    Trump II - 2025 - (I could give .5, but due to circumstances lets not include this term).

    We have in office while Iran built a nuclear weapons program by party.

    Republicans (18 Years) - Democrats (20)

    Okay, so the Democrats had 2 more years in office that they could have done something. Though keep in mind the Democrats also made agreements with Iran that sucessfully put their nuclear ambitions on hold in 2015 (During Obama's presidency.). The US withdrew from that agreement in 2018 at the direction of Donald Trump.

    There was talk that the Biden administration might attempt to renew the agreement, but nothing came to fruition.

    Taken as a whole.. I would say your statement that the Democrats "WANT" Iran to have nukes it 100% poppycock..

    Take the information for what it is worth, I could care less if you discard it out of hand. Though looking at it through the eyes of history, the United States has had failed policy regarding Iran since the CIA and British Intelligence had the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh overthrown in 1953 after he pushed to have Iran's oil fields nationalized.. OOOPS...

    Oh.. You might want to look at the latest intelligence reports regarding the effectiveness of the recent airstrikes.. Hmm Hmm Hmm.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Tue Jun 24 22:42:02 2025
    Naw they are just waiting until after midterms, when they regain majority, God willing they get one in both the House and Senate

    A majority in the senate isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    An entirely subjective and useless comment albiet entertaining.

    It's not subjective. It's the truth:
    "The US Senate 2/3rds rule refers to the requirement for a two-thirds majority vote in the Senate for certain actions."

    Republicans have a simple majority in the senate but they can't do jack because of this rule. Go ahead and hope for a Democrat majority in the next election if you want, but unless a significant # of Republican senators are defeated, they won't be doing jack with their simple majority either.

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    Let's see (Firing up Google)..

    That's a bad idea. Google gets people fired up too much as it is.

    When you see something crystal clear, why do you consult with Google for it to tell you something different? If it's cloudy and meteorologists are telling you that a hurricane is headed your way, are you going to ask Google for an alternative reality?

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 25 04:12:07 2025
    On Tue 24-Jun-2025 10:42p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Rug Rat:
    Naw they are just waiting until after midterms, when they
    regain
    majority, God willing they get one in both the House and
    Senate

    A majority in the senate isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    An entirely subjective and useless comment albiet entertaining.

    It's not subjective. It's the truth:
    "The US Senate 2/3rds rule refers to the requirement for a two-thirds majority vote in the Senate for certain actions."

    Republicans have a simple majority in the senate but they can't do jack because of this rule. Go ahead and hope for a Democrat majority in the
    next election if you want, but unless a significant # of Republican senators are defeated, they won't be doing jack with their simple majority either.

    I am hoping there will be enough votes in both the house and sentate to end this clown show. IE have an successful impeachment and removal from office. Not surprised I actually have to spell things out for you.

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    Let's see (Firing up Google)..

    That's a bad idea. Google gets people fired up too much as it is.

    When you see something crystal clear, why do you consult with Google for
    it to tell you something different? If it's cloudy and meteorologists are telling you that a hurricane is headed your way, are you going to ask Google for an alternative reality?

    It is called research, and making sure you have facts and sources to either back up your claim. Otherwise you are just stating an oppinion based on feelings. I'd pitty you if I really actually gave a crap.. ;)



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Wed Jun 25 04:12:31 2025
    When you see something crystal clear, why do you consult with Google f it to tell you something different? If it's cloudy and meteorologists telling you that a hurricane is headed your way, are you going to ask Google for an alternative reality?

    It is called research, and making sure you have facts and sources to either back up your claim. Otherwise you are just stating an oppinion based on feelings. I'd pitty you if I really actually gave a crap.. ;)

    Reading information from webpages isn't "research." You can't use webpages to establish facts unless you're establishing facts about webpages.

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    "The Democrats want nukes for Iran." You saw proof of it when AOC and the other waitstaff tried to impeach Trump for delaying Iran's uranium facilities. But then you decided to ask Google "How can I be right when I'm so wrong?" and it gave you bad advice.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 25 07:47:35 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    But then I found out what it means to "table" a bill; it means they're
    not impeaching him now, but they're also not taking it off the menu. They'll impeach him ("forever") when the time is right.

    More like they want to make it fade away to save face. Every time they tried to impeach Trump, it only made him more popular.

    But some of the house Democrats are so angry about Trump derailing
    their nuclear ambition that they've lashed out publicly, like Jasmine Crockett who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I decide when!"

    I swear that Crockett is giving AOC a run for her money for "Stupidest Congresscritter".


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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 25 06:45:41 2025
    On Wed 25-Jun-2025 4:12a, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Rug Rat:
    When you see something crystal clear, why do you consult with
    Google f
    it to tell you something different? If it's cloudy and
    meteorologists
    telling you that a hurricane is headed your way, are you going to
    ask
    Google for an alternative reality?

    It is called research, and making sure you have facts and sources to either back up your claim. Otherwise you are just stating an
    oppinion
    based on feelings. I'd pitty you if I really actually gave a crap..
    ;)

    Reading information from webpages isn't "research." You can't use webpages to establish facts unless you're establishing facts about webpages.

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    "The Democrats want nukes for Iran." You saw proof of it when AOC and the other waitstaff tried to impeach Trump for delaying Iran's uranium facilities. But then you decided to ask Google "How can I be right when
    I'm so wrong?" and it gave you bad advice.

    You realize that you say nothing of substance in your responses, right?

    Though give this a shot, "How to say nothing at all in as many words as possible." Might end up a best seller.

    I'm done, I'd have more fun watching paint dry.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 25 06:45:19 2025
    But then I found out what it means to "table" a bill; it means they'r not impeaching him now, but they're also not taking it off the menu. They'll impeach him ("forever") when the time is right.

    More like they want to make it fade away to save face. Every time they tried to impeach Trump, it only made him more popular.

    Democrats are still on a mission to take Trump down. The slightly more intelligent (but still ignorant) ones realize that this is not the big opportunity that they've been waiting for.

    Crockett who said "Trump don't decide when to push the button, I deci when!"

    I swear that Crockett is giving AOC a run for her money for "Stupidest Congresscritter".

    Finally, a competition that one of them can actually win.

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  • From Don Vally@1:135/363 to RUG RAT on Wed Jun 25 10:21:50 2025
    Quoting Rug Rat to Aaron Thomas <=-

    It's not subjective. It's the truth:
    "The US Senate 2/3rds rule refers to the requirement for a two-thirds majority vote in the Senate for certain actions."

    Republicans have a simple majority in the senate but they can't do jack because of this rule. Go ahead and hope for a Democrat majority in the next election if you want, but unless a significant # of Republican senators are defeated, they won't be doing jack with their simple majority either.

    I am hoping there will be enough votes in both the house and sentate
    to end this clown show. IE have an successful impeachment and removal
    from office. Not surprised I actually have to spell things out for
    you.
    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.

    Let's see (Firing up Google)..

    That's a bad idea. Google gets people fired up too much as it is.

    When you see something crystal clear, why do you consult with Google for it to tell you something different? If it's cloudy and meteorologists are telling you that a hurricane is headed your way, are you going to ask Google for an alternative reality?

    It is called research, and making sure you have facts and sources to either back up your claim. Otherwise you are just stating an oppinion based on feelings. I'd pitty you if I really actually gave a crap..
    ;)

    And we all KNOW that everything you read on the internet is factual and not
    someone elses opinion based on feelings right? Not sure why you can't see
    it, but you are kind of acting like a child. Sometimes you respond with
    clarity and other times abstrusely.

    Thing is, if you "don't give a crap" why are you even in the conversation?

    Have an excellent day!
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 25 07:32:26 2025
    On 25 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    I swear that Crockett is giving AOC a run for her money for "Stupidest Congresscritter".


    Fun Fact... People vote them in.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 26 07:46:49 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I swear that Crockett is giving AOC a run for her money for "Stupidest Congresscritter".

    Finally, a competition that one of them can actually win.

    I dunno. It might be a tie. :)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 26 07:46:49 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I swear that Crockett is giving AOC a run for her money for "Stupidest Congresscritter".

    Fun Fact... People vote them in.

    Based on polling numbers, I'm having some trouble believing that.

    I think the voter fraud machine is far more rampant than we think.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 26 15:14:37 2025

    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.


    I've seen you say some dumb stuff. This is right up there with the dumbest.

    AT best, the Democrats don't want nukes for anyone. Including the USA.
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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 26 15:16:19 2025

    But then I found out what it means to "table" a bill; it means
    they'r AT> not impeaching him now, but they're also not taking it off
    the menu. AT> They'll impeach him ("forever") when the time is right.

    More like they want to make it fade away to save face. Every time they
    tried to impeach Trump, it only made him more popular.

    Democrats are still on a mission to take Trump down. The slightly more intelligent (but still ignorant) ones realize that this is not the big opportunity that they've been waiting for.

    Who the hell wants a couch lover as president? Vance is even dumber than Trump.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 26 18:41:38 2025
    On 26 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Based on polling numbers, I'm having some trouble believing that.

    I think the voter fraud machine is far more rampant than we think.


    You may have a point. With all this Trumpmentum we might be able to get elections where only citizens vote and they are counted by hand.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 26 22:14:31 2025
    The Democrats want nukes for Iran.


    I've seen you say some dumb stuff. This is right up there with the dumbest.

    What's dumb about it? The house Democrats got mad because Trump paused Iran's nuclear projects. They are the dumb ones. Biden unfroze $8 billion dollars in Iranian money. Obama send planeloads of cash-barrels to Iran. You must think that I'm really, really dumb.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 26 22:17:56 2025
    Democrats are still on a mission to take Trump down. The slightly mor intelligent (but still ignorant) ones realize that this is not the bi opportunity that they've been waiting for.

    Who the hell wants a couch lover as president? Vance is even dumber than Trump.

    The Trump trashing is what got him re-elected. So go ahead and trash JD Vance all you want. It's helpful.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Ib Joe on Fri Jun 27 05:54:59 2025
    On Thu 26-Jun-2025 6:41p, Ib Joe@1:342/200.0 said to Ron L.:
    On 26 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Based on polling numbers, I'm having some trouble believing that.

    I think the voter fraud machine is far more rampant than we think.


    Or....... Face the fact that there might be more people out there that think differently than the MAGA/ultra right, or yourselves?

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 27 05:58:53 2025
    On Thu 26-Jun-2025 10:17p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Mike Miller:

    The Trump trashing is what got him re-elected. So go ahead and trash JD Vance all you want. It's helpful.

    No, the running and nominating a candidate well into congnitive decline, hiding the advanced state of that cognitive decline for 4 years then nominating a weak candidate as a replacement when they finally wake up and see the error of their ways, got Trump re-elected.

    Not to mention the large magority of the Amerifan public has the memory of a fruit fly, once something/someone is out of the lime light.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 27 07:49:01 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    You may have a point. With all this Trumpmentum we might be able to
    get elections where only citizens vote and they are counted by hand.

    Well, with the illegals that are still here keeping their heads low, they certainly won't show up at the polls.

    If we can tighten up the mail-in vote rules like they were before - like you have to go to your city hall, in person, and request an absentee ballot - that would reduce illegal voting even more.

    But the states that have the problem with the illegal voting aren't going to change their (usually illegal) rules for voting.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Fri Jun 27 08:41:47 2025
    The Trump trashing is what got him re-elected. So go ahead and trash J Vance all you want. It's helpful.

    No, the running and nominating a candidate well into congnitive decline, hiding the advanced state of that cognitive decline for 4 years then nominating a weak candidate as a replacement when they finally wake up
    and see the error of their ways, got Trump re-elected.

    Not to mention the large magority of the Amerifan public has the memory
    of a fruit fly, once something/someone is out of the lime light.

    You're right about all that! But there is a population of American voters who (and I'm one of them) are now in favor of whatever the media is not in favor of.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Fri Jun 27 13:59:56 2025
    On 27 Jun 2025, Rug Rat said the following...


    Or....... Face the fact that there might be more people out there that think differently than the MAGA/ultra right, or yourselves?


    You might want to take your own advice... Trump won handedly... Turned EVERY county in the country REDDER... Won the Electoral College and the Popular Vote with numbers never seen before.

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