• Al K. Haul

    From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 24 05:58:42 2025
    OTOH we've never had a hangover, either of us.

    That's because you're both teetotalers. I'm not. Altho I don't imbibe
    as much as I did when I wore a younger man's clothes.

    We've had occaisional small amounts of drinks but have had the sense to stop well before they would affect us. We're using small amounts of red
    or white wine in cooking from time to time also, just as an interesting flavor note--a splash of red works well in beef stew.

    I stand (sit actually) corrected. You have quibbled over beer/wine/
    booze as an ingredient so much over the years we've both been on the
    echo that I made an assumption. And we both know what "assume" does.

    My grandmother used to act scandalised when she had the sip of wine
    at Sunday communuin in her church. But she kept a bottle of Chrisyain
    Brothers brandy in her pantry for use in cooking. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Johnny Bull (Suet) Pudding
    Categories: Puddings, Beef, Fruits, Desserts, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Chopped kidney suet
    3 c Flour
    2 ts Baking powder
    3 lg Eggs
    1 c Sugar
    2 c Cooked raisins
    1 ts (ea) ground ginger, cinnamon
    - allspice
    1/2 ts Ground cloves
    2 c Milk

    MMMMM------------------------LEMON SAUCE-----------------------------
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 tb Flour
    1 ts Butter
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Grated rind of half lemon
    pn Salt
    1 c Water

    MMMMM--------------------BRANDY (HARD) SAUCE-------------------------
    1 c Water
    2 tb Corn Starch
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 c Brandy
    1 ts Real Vanilla

    Mix 1 cup flour and suet together with hands until all
    strings are worked out of suet. Cream sugar and eggs
    together. Sift flour, baking powder & spices together.
    Add to creamed mixture and alternate with milk and
    flour/suet. Last, add raisins and mix well. Place in a
    cloth bag and steam over hot water for 3 hours. Serve
    with sauce.

    MAKE THE LEMON SAUCE: Mix all ingredients together and
    cook a few moments. Pour over pudding.

    MAKE THE HARD SAUCE: Mix dry ingredients and then stir
    them into a cup of boiling water. Boil for 5 minutes and
    then add butter, brandy, and vanilla.

    Serve hot over mince pie, gingerbread or plum pudding.

    From: My Grandmother's Kitchen

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 27 12:03:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We've had occaisional small amounts of drinks but have had the sense to stop well before they would affect us. We're using small amounts of red
    or white wine in cooking from time to time also, just as an interesting flavor note--a splash of red works well in beef stew.

    I stand (sit actually) corrected. You have quibbled over beer/wine/
    booze as an ingredient so much over the years we've both been on the
    echo that I made an assumption. And we both know what "assume" does.

    A few years ago we started trying small amounts of it in cooking. Still don't drink it tho.

    Which brings us back to the original reason for fermentation, eTc. As a
    food preservation method from back in the pre-refrigeration days.

    But your usage pretty much mirrors mine these days. I use it culinarily,
    not recreationally.

    My grandmother used to act scandalised when she had the sip of wine
    at Sunday communuin in her church. But she kept a bottle of Chrisyain Brothers brandy in her pantry for use in cooking. Bv)=

    We use grape juice for communion. The church we were members of when we were first married used wine but after that we've been members of
    Southern Baptist congregations. Joined a small SBC church in California when Steve was in language school, liked what they stood for (a few
    minor side disagreemenst but nothing serious) and have stayed with them ever since.

    Without getting off into an off-topic discussion of religion - wine is
    and has been an integral part of Western religion since before the late,
    great J. C.

    And many of the old, traditional wineries/distilleries began in and in
    many cases are owned/operated by various religious orders.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ragu alla Pugliese
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Pork, Beef, Vegetaqbles, Wine
    Yield: 12 servings

    250 g (9 oz) beef
    250 g (9 oz) pork belly (pancetta)
    250 g (9 oz) lamb
    4 links salsiccia pork sausage
    1/2 Chicken
    1 L Tomato puréee
    100 g (3 1/2 oz) tomato paste
    1 lg Brown onion
    2 cl Garlic
    Extra virgin olive oil
    Crushed/ground red chile
    150 mL (5 oz) glass white wine
    Salt

    Cut the pork belly into small pieces and cut the rest of
    the meat in 3cm/1" dices. Finely slice the onion and the
    garlic.

    Add the onion, the garlic, a glass of water, and oil to
    a pan and saute, covered, over low heat, stirring
    frequently.

    Once the onions have browned, add the pork belly and
    turn the heat up and saute.

    Pour in half a glass of wine and cook, covered, for a
    half an hour over low heat.

    After 30 minutes have passed, add the remaining diced
    meat, the rest of the wine, the tomato purée, the tomato
    paste, the chile pepper, and the salt.

    Cook, covered, over low heat for three hours until the
    meat falls off the bone.

    Approximately forty-five minutes before the dish is
    fully cooked, add the chicken and the sausages.

    Serve with orecchiette (little ears) pasta, sprinkled
    with either grated pecorino or grated Canestrato
    Pugliese.

    NOTE: Although the dish is made with various kinds of
    meat, using only one type of meat is also fine, just
    make sure you use cuts that benefit from long cooking.
    The amount of chili peppers can also be adjusted to
    personal taste, so you can up the heat if desired.

    UDD NOTE: The measures and/or comments in parenthesis
    were added by me for clarity.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteatlas.com

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